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		<title>Comment on Focusing Those Binoculars by Andrew Luecke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Luecke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Forest.. From what I can see, Linux CD ripping isn't done yet.. But if you look in http://developer.songbirdnest.com/builds/trunk/latest/ and check out the addons, you'll notice a OSX CD ripping addon (it was finished a short time after 1.4 final).

It may have been done in OSX first because Phillips might want it. Also, OSX is a lot easier to deal with than Linux (the problem I'd imagine is the testing, not the implementation because each distro needs to be treated as its own OS for testing). 

But meh, as mentioned, I'm a community member, so that is only a theory.. You could always join the IRC channel and ask officially...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Forest.. From what I can see, Linux CD ripping isn&#8217;t done yet.. But if you look in <a href="http://developer.songbirdnest.com/builds/trunk/latest/" rel="nofollow">http://developer.songbirdnest.com/builds/trunk/latest/</a> and check out the addons, you&#8217;ll notice a OSX CD ripping addon (it was finished a short time after 1.4 final).</p>
<p>It may have been done in OSX first because Phillips might want it. Also, OSX is a lot easier to deal with than Linux (the problem I&#8217;d imagine is the testing, not the implementation because each distro needs to be treated as its own OS for testing). </p>
<p>But meh, as mentioned, I&#8217;m a community member, so that is only a theory.. You could always join the IRC channel and ask officially&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Focusing Those Binoculars by Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there already crossfading included?
 
Thx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there already crossfading included?</p>
<p>Thx</p>
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		<title>Comment on Focusing Those Binoculars by Forest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Forest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andrew Luecke

Does that mean Linux CD Rip is not on the roadmap but also done?</description>
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<p>Does that mean Linux CD Rip is not on the roadmap but also done?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Focusing Those Binoculars by Andrew Luecke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Luecke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Manu_F: OSX CD ripping isn't on the Roadmap, but its done. Not everything which gets added is shown on the roadmap..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Manu_F: OSX CD ripping isn&#8217;t on the Roadmap, but its done. Not everything which gets added is shown on the roadmap..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Focusing Those Binoculars by katana346</title>
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		<dc:creator>katana346</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 04:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@aus
True enough, and again, it's not that I don't think you are doing anything... the roadmap page just makes it look like the "internal releases" are releases that we, as users, would be interested in being included in. Win7 support, video playback, etc... these seem like things that we could provide feedback on and test. I mean, why could these not be public releases? What is the advantage to making them internal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@aus<br />
True enough, and again, it&#8217;s not that I don&#8217;t think you are doing anything&#8230; the roadmap page just makes it look like the &#8220;internal releases&#8221; are releases that we, as users, would be interested in being included in. Win7 support, video playback, etc&#8230; these seem like things that we could provide feedback on and test. I mean, why could these not be public releases? What is the advantage to making them internal?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Focusing Those Binoculars by Manu_F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manu_F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 03:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhm.. no CD rip on mac os x is in the roadmap?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhm.. no CD rip on mac os x is in the roadmap?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Focusing Those Binoculars by Aus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have been making regular releases. Again, some of them are for partners, but our schedule for making them has been extremely regular over the past 2 years. :) Every 2 to 3 months without fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have been making regular releases. Again, some of them are for partners, but our schedule for making them has been extremely regular over the past 2 years. <img src='http://blog.songbirdnest.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Every 2 to 3 months without fail.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Focusing Those Binoculars by Forest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Forest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Preed

Ok, I downloaded the latest build off branch and it's not playing video for me.  Well, it plays the audio from the video file but no video.  This is exactly what I mean; is this a bug?  Should I be filing a bug on bugzilla or does POTI just not intend to support video on Linux?  It's frustrating when you wait months for a new release of Songbird and the wiki says it's going to support video playback, and then the release comes out and it doesn't.  More regular releases would help set our expectations better.  My suspicion is that POTI just doesn't give a rats ass about Linux users (there hasn't been a single new feature for Linux users since 1.2) and the goal of the internal milestones and vague release objectives is to brush off angry users so POTI can focus on the stuff *they* think is important.  But again, maybe my suspicions are misguided; it would really just help if there was a little more communication on these things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Preed</p>
<p>Ok, I downloaded the latest build off branch and it&#8217;s not playing video for me.  Well, it plays the audio from the video file but no video.  This is exactly what I mean; is this a bug?  Should I be filing a bug on bugzilla or does POTI just not intend to support video on Linux?  It&#8217;s frustrating when you wait months for a new release of Songbird and the wiki says it&#8217;s going to support video playback, and then the release comes out and it doesn&#8217;t.  More regular releases would help set our expectations better.  My suspicion is that POTI just doesn&#8217;t give a rats ass about Linux users (there hasn&#8217;t been a single new feature for Linux users since 1.2) and the goal of the internal milestones and vague release objectives is to brush off angry users so POTI can focus on the stuff *they* think is important.  But again, maybe my suspicions are misguided; it would really just help if there was a little more communication on these things.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Focusing Those Binoculars by Preed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Preed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Forest:

Due to our current style of development, builds off of branches that are for internal releases do not tend to differ in significantly meaningful ways from the builds on trunk.

In fact, if your goal is to see where Songbird is headed, then trunk builds are a better source of that information, as they're often slightly ahead of internal release branches.

Trunk builds are can be download here:

http://developer.songbirdnest.com/builds/trunk/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Forest:</p>
<p>Due to our current style of development, builds off of branches that are for internal releases do not tend to differ in significantly meaningful ways from the builds on trunk.</p>
<p>In fact, if your goal is to see where Songbird is headed, then trunk builds are a better source of that information, as they&#8217;re often slightly ahead of internal release branches.</p>
<p>Trunk builds are can be download here:</p>
<p><a href="http://developer.songbirdnest.com/builds/trunk/" rel="nofollow">http://developer.songbirdnest.com/builds/trunk/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Focusing Those Binoculars by Forest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Forest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Preed

The problem is that these internal builds ARE relevant to the community.  They help give us picture of Songbird and where it's heading and allow us to give input on new features before everything is finalized.

For example, I'm on Linux.  Looking through the bugs on Tracker/Bugzilla, it looks like the new releases don't support video playback on Linux, but honestly, it's kind of difficult to tell from the bugs alone.  That's something I would like to know, and having some public releases of even the internal milestones would help the rest of us give you feedback and set our expectations for the final release.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Preed</p>
<p>The problem is that these internal builds ARE relevant to the community.  They help give us picture of Songbird and where it&#8217;s heading and allow us to give input on new features before everything is finalized.</p>
<p>For example, I&#8217;m on Linux.  Looking through the bugs on Tracker/Bugzilla, it looks like the new releases don&#8217;t support video playback on Linux, but honestly, it&#8217;s kind of difficult to tell from the bugs alone.  That&#8217;s something I would like to know, and having some public releases of even the internal milestones would help the rest of us give you feedback and set our expectations for the final release.</p>
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